@geopsych replied to your post “I love stories of plant cultivars lost to history only to be refound….”

When I was much younger I met a man who grew only really old cultivars in the gardens around his house. Of course I didn’t appreciate it then.

Lol we all have those moments in our lives where we look back and go “wtf me, you don’t know what you had before you.”

geopsych
replied to your post “I love stories of plant cultivars lost to history only to be refound….”

Slightly different but I always loved the story of Franklinia. Bartram brought one back from the south, I forget where, and then the entire rest of the species was wiped out in a hurricane. Every garden Franklinia (named for Benjamin Franklin) is descended from that one Bartram brought north.

John Bartram was appointed Royal Botanist for North America by King George III in 1765. In that same year, John Bartram and his son William discovered franklinia growing in a 2-3 acre tract along the banks of the Altamaha River in southeastern Georgia. Franklinia has never been observed growing in any other place than along the Altamaha River.

In a return trip in 1773, William Bartram collected seed from this site and brought it back to the Bartram’s garden in Philadelphia where the tree was successfully grown. This tree has been extinct in the wild since 1803.“

It is not known why this tree disappeared in the wild. Land along the Altamaha River was cleared for cotton plantations leading to one theory that a cotton pathogen found in the soil (carried downstream through erosion) was the main cause of the extinction of the colony. Other extinction theories include decline from climate change, destruction by man, single colony of plants was not genetically diverse enough to withstand pathogens or changing conditions, or a local disaster (flood or fire).“

[quoted from the Missouri Botanical Garden’s profile on the tree]

Wow that’s a story, but yeah it’s slightly different but a similarly appealing story even if it’s semisad. Extinct in wild plants like Chocolate Cosmos, [a species of cycad icr the name for], and even that resurrected palm tree seeds, those stories are amazing too!

@parkingcurb replied to your post “Lucky for me that some of y’all plantlbrs on tumblr still use the…”

do people use plantblr on here because i need to start using it on treemigration and gam if so :/

#plantblr is a favoured tag along with #gardeners on tumblr / #gardeners of tumblr yes. I think it was originally coined by fishblrs that also admired their plants. Plantblr is a nice tag cause it’s short and sweet with no spaces~

@ayustar replied to your post “60, 63 and 67!”

What’s wrong with your dracaena? I remember it being awesome.

Behold her glory

She has lost her straightness and is precariously topheavy. Needs a soil change/rejuvenation, a stake tie up, and potentially even be cut at the bend and regrown (all things which I am unable to do at this current time). Also lots and lots of sun which is currently still tricky to provide.

She started to go downhill after the move back to the farm along with her variegated partner, and had been growing in a bit of a painfully dark spot (while it was by the window it was in the blindspot from the sunlight).

feelsbad man.

@madfishmonger​ replied to your photoset “F*CKING MASSIVE ROSE Ignore unhinged jaw of my face I wasn’t planning…”

I dug up my grandmother’s roses, I went three feet down and three feet to the side and just cut the roots because it was too bloody huge

Wow, now those are some roses.

@bonzicatgirl​ replied to your photoset “F*CKING MASSIVE ROSE Ignore unhinged jaw of my face I wasn’t planning…”

I also suggest Above and Beyond! A hybrid of William Baffin and a yellow tea rose that has all the characteristics of the Canadian explorers but yellow and reblooming

If I ever get room for some more hardy large roses I’ll definitely consider it! Yellows roses and red/white striped roses are a weakness of mine!

@semianonymity​ replied to your photoset “F*CKING MASSIVE ROSE Ignore unhinged jaw of my face I wasn’t planning…”

On the one hand, that is a very impressive rose! On the other hand, our climates are SO DIFFERENT that it kind of blows my mind. Look. I had a hybrid rose at my childhood home–probably rootstock originally–and it grew straight up to the 2nd story and then 10 feet into the roof via a vent one summer.

It’s not just you Semi, I find the stark contrast from the climates quite amazing too. From literature I’ve heard of roses which would normally be tiny miniatures becoming SHED ENGULFING BEHEMOTHS in places like New Zealand. It’s amazing how different a plant can behave depending on the climate alone.

@allymaerusso replied to your post “botanyshitposts:
tumble dot hell is wild and i am So Weary so here’s…”

@kihaku-gato I’m confused why continuing to produce this species is necessarily a bad thing if the nurseries u say are propagating by seed, cutting, or grafting they’re able to reproduce the species and keep the rest in their natural habitat. Why not buy a bunch from a a nursery and just transplant them in their native region?

Producing a plant species in nurseries is not a bad thing. I meant that as in that is how it’s relieving pressure from the wild populations. That is a good thing (it’s part of why I myself am working on producing Jack-in-the-pulpit in my home nursery. It’s so that the demand to poach such a species drops, as poaching is becoming a thing in the more southerly counties of my region). I was meaning those who say appreciating a beautiful plants species MUST mean it’s being promoted to be poached are off the mark.

As for “buying nursery stock to reintroduce into the wild”, that is its own can of worms that I myself think would not be able to entirely elaborate on but I’ll try my best;

 There is a class of nursery production known as Landscape Restoration wherein the production of the plants is for the purpose of reintroducing/reestablishing into the wilds, this style of production works a little differently from normal nursery production; the plants to a degree are given a pedigree. One has to document where their parentage comes from; Where the seed/cuttings come from (often the info the nursery will provide will be either an ecoregion or an address). St. Williams Nursery in southern Ontario is an infamous example of a Landscape Restoration Nursery.

At its bare-bones landscape restoration nurseries work this way is for Genetic Diversity reasons. Let’s use Cucumber Magnolia for this format; it’s endangered in Ontario, but common/widespread in the eastern american states. Why grab Cucumber Magnolias from a Landscape Restoration nursery vs just any nursery to reintroduce them (who would care? who would know?)? Yet again pedigree comes into play; Non-landscape restorative nursuries can/could be american imports which are genetically distinct from Ontarian Magnolias, so you’re risking genetic pollution between the two, and american Magnolias are not as adapted to Ontario’s odd winters compared to Magnolias which have been growing for generations in this ecoregion, so you risk killing the remaining trees through that genetic pollution.

In the case of a species that is outright extinct in the wild, reintroduction is through nursery stock is less of a concern (still can be concerns but I don’t have much energy to elaborate on the varying factoids); you don’t need to worry as much about genetic pollution, just getting them established/naturalized. in the case of where a species is endangered not extinct, this is a bit trickier to decide (though similar questions arise even when reintroducing a plant which has become extinct); is the species being produced by the nursery for the purpose of reintroduction, or is it being produced with the primary intent of hobbyists/gardeners to grow the plant? The former the plants will be produced with the intent of maximizing genetic diversity to make them the most adaptable to reintroduction, the latter though the plants will be often bred the opposite direction (bred for conformity and genetic similarity, often via selective breeding or vegetative propagation) which means they deviate from their wild cousins; they bring with them the potential of polluting the adaptability of the existing wild populations (especially if the introduced plants outnumber the wild endangered specimens), bringing in weaknesses to diseases/pests that their wild equivalents are more resistant to vs their domestic introductions, they may even be bred in such a way that they cannot mesh with the ecosystem the same way due to the deviation from the wild species’ gene pool.

My eyes are overloading from the text so I’ll stop here. But in conclusion; 

TLDR; Nursery Production of plants is a good thing, however using nursery produced plants to reestablish wild/endangered populations of plants is not a good idea if that is not what the Nursery is growing the plants for. Reintroducing plants from the wild should be kept to the professionals and the volunteers that are with the professionals.

@geopsych replied to your photo “geopsych:
I saw things today.

Pink lady slipper orchids.

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Huh. I never think of them as rare, but maybe they are. I just figured they’re pretty common in the woods. I guess there’s not as much woods as there used to be, though.

True that particular species is actually pretty widespread where it grows. I just consider native orchids in general a rare gem. Between their need a certain fungus to germinate, to habitat destruction, to plant poachers, there’s a lot to put any orchid at risk. Pink ladyslipper orchid is endangered/threatened in some american states probably for that very reason, though compared to its relatives it’s nowhere near as at risk.

Also I have never personally seen a native orchid ever in my locality which is another reason I pinned it as a rarity lol.

@plantyhamchuk replied to your post “Decent follower drop and it’s not even from pornbots getting just…”

( If you tag your stuff like ‘plant’ and ‘art’ or something then people can more easily filter out but stay subscribed. )

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True but I’m a low energy lazybody. I surprisingly have to take a lot of effort sometimes to use my most base of tags. For a while I did “offtopic” as an all encompassing tag for stuff that wasn’t plant related but that kind of got thrown out the window in 2017 purely out of losing track of it…